A New Challenge

Your Current Challenge:

1.In 1 degree or 2 degrees (if you include the character) of separation how is WKRP (in Cincinatti) related to Stephen King. (hint: WKRP was mentioned in one of his books.)

2. In 2 degrees of separation how are Adam Sandler and Julia Roberts related (and here's one hint at least -- I'm not using Drew Barrymore).  The third actor or actress has a similar role in both movies.

3. in 2 degrees of separation how are Scott Bakula and Tim Allen related. Hint: The year 1991, and the day September 9, 1959 is involved. 

Submitted by Ryan Poole: 3/4/05  Revised

Now for the Rules and History

Come up with a trivia question nobody can answer.

(Lower case n. Stump everyone else who comes to this site.)

The first person to provide the answer gets to come up with a trivia question of their own. Until somebody achieves the goal.

It has to be about something publicly accessible. That is, no "What's the name of my pet iguana." Books, Movies, History, Science, Sports....stuff you might find in Trivial Pursuit.

Of course, yes, its possible for someone to use google. Since we don't want you to be the one to stump all others, and you don't want us to be, you and we are likely to use all resources to answer the question.

So it probably makes sense to plug your question into Google first and see what appears. Because it may be possible to phrase the question in such a way to make it more difficult to research.

We're not sure what the suitable length of time is to wait before we declare someone has stumped everyone else. We're open to suggestions.

Nobody will start this off:


A famous big name poet once wrote a poem addressed to the son of a colleague, when the kid was only six. The poet and the colleague, together, wrote a seminal work in poetical history published in the late 18th century. The kid later on wrote some poetry himself, though he wasn't as well known as his father, or his father's colleague.  Ironically, one of his better known poems is about his father's colleague.


Name the three, and one poem written by each.

Puzzle Solved by Christy

William Wordsworth, Samuel Taylor Coleridge (father), David Hartley Coleridge (son).  Several poems could have been chosen for each.   Wordsworth and Coleridge published Lyrical Ballads in 1798 - which is usually seen as the start of the Romantic Period.  Wordsworth wrote "To H.C. - Six years Old", and DH Coleridge wrote "Wordsworth Unvisited."

Christy's Challenge

Solve the following Patented Wacky Equation to find the name of an establishment East of the Mississippi.

A = first word in a Lorraine Hansberry title (the word under which the title would be alphabetized--a, the, an, etc. don't count)

B = the undersurface of a foot

C = artistic or literary material held to be of low quality, and marked especially by sentimentalism, sensationalism, and slickness

A1 + B + C + A2

The correct answer will include the name, address and city of the checkpoint, plus a bonus phrase. You can construct the bonus phrase with the first three letters of the establishment's name, plus the name of the river that runs north of the establishment.

 Puzzle Solved by hanna

"Ray's Soul Kitchen", which is located at 239 Dudley Street, Roxbury, MA (kind of Boston).  Bonus Phrase: Ray Charles

Lorraine Hansberry work: A RAISIN in the Sun
The underside of a foot: SOLE
artistic or literary material held to be of low quality, and marked especially by sentimentalism, sensationalism, and slickness: KITSCH

First 3 letters of establishment: RAY
River North of establishment: CHARLES

RAIS + SOLE + KITSCH + IN
Hanna's Challenge
One of Joanna May’s ”sisters”, the one who drives the Porsche, shares her first name with a children’s book heroine. In the most famous book about this heroine, you can learn what to do with children who sneeze. This action gives associations to a literary grouping who originally found the inspiration for their “group name” from a slang word used by a hustler in Times Square. This hustler, who (according to an autobiography written by a famous author with the middle initial S) used to wear heavily applied pancake make-up, has the same first name as an Austin philosopher. This Austin philosopher was once a visiting scholar in a European country. In the late 1970s, the “Secret Service” of this country had a postman who didn’t ring twice, but always arrived at a certain hour. Add this time (two digits) to the number of “sisters” Joanna May had, add the number of books published by the Austin philosopher, and add the two last digits of the birth year of the hustler (a number between 01 and 99). If you thus add time+sisters+books+year, the sum is also the name of a major US Interstate road. Name a major city located along this Interstate road that begin with the first letter in the name Johanna May’s sister (the one with the Porsche). The city name is your answer.
Puzzle solved by Christy
Joanna May, the protagonist of Fay Weldon’s novel “The Cloning of Joanna May” (1989) has 4 sisters, or rather clones. ne of them, Alice, drives a Porsche, since she prefers to drive something more expensive than her brothers do. In “Alice in Wonderland” (1866) by Lewis Carroll you learn to “Speak roughly to your little boy / And beat him when he sneezes”. The Beat Generation, with authors like Kerouack, Ginsberg, and Burroughs, found inspiration from the slang word “beat” (originally meaning “exhsted, at the bottom of the world, looking up or out, sleepless, wide-eyed, perceptive, rejected by society, on you own, streetwise”), as it was used in 1944 by the Times Square hustler Herbert Huncke, who is mentioned in William S. Burroughs autobiography “Junky: Confessions of an Unredeemed Drug Addict” (1953). There is an Austin philosopher named Herbert Hochberg, who once was a visiting scholar in Gothenburg, Sweden. In the late 70s and early 80s “Secret Service” was a very popular band in Sweden, and in 1979 they had a big hit called “Ten O’Clock Postman”. Johanna May has four “sisters”, Herbert Hochberg has published six books, and Herbert Huncke was born in 1915. So that’s 10+4+6+15, which equals 35. I 35 runs from Laredo, TX, to Duluth, MN. The only major city along I 35 that starts with an A (for Alice) is Austin, TX.

Christy's 6/21 Challenge

Similar (but not exactly like) 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon, connect Dick Van Patton with REM in as few steps as possible, but your "trail" MUST consist of, at least:

1 TV show
1 familial relationship (father/son, aunt/uncle, etc.)
1 album (or song)
1 songwriter

Solved by Scuzz

Christy's Answer:

DVP was in EiE with Lani O'Grady

Lani O'Grady's real-life brother is Don Grady

Don Grady (Don Agrati) played on Gary Zekley's (producer/songwriter) Yellow Balloon in the 60's (many of the tracks of this album, including the title track were also recorded by Jan and Dean, but that's just an aside).

Gary Zekley wrote "I am Superman" which was recorded by REM (Life's Rich Pageant).

But she accepted Scuzz' answer:

1. REM has a song called The Stand

2. Songwriter Steven Cavanaugh wrote a parody called Han for "Star Wars: The Musical"

3. Mark Hamill played Luke in Star Wars episodes 4-6

4. Mark Hamill played David Bradford on Eight is Enough for one season - 1977

5. David Bradford's father was played by Dick Van Patten

Scuzz's Challenge

Identify the kid smoking the cigarette in this picture (First and last name)

Puzzle solved by Christy

Dennis Cuzinski (Scuzz) from the comic book D.P. 7 (1986-1989)

Christy's 6/22 Challenge:

1) A certain cartoon character, who had his own cartoon in the 60's
shares his name with a character drawn by Charles Schultz.  The person
who voiced this character, concurrently co-produced a well-known
program of the 60's along with a man who lended his voice to the
cartoon above.

2) The well-known program above has something in common with another 60's sitcom,
which aired from 61-65.  The star of THIS sitcom, in real life, was a
member of a well-known group which shares its name with a particular
animal.  On the show, his character lived in an apartment building
which has the same name as a never-seen character on a popular 70's
spin-off of another popular 70's show.

3) The actor who played this unseen character has something in common
with #1.  Figure that out and his other famous role should be clear.

Name both men in #1
Name all programs in #2 (4 total)
Name the actor and his other famous role in #3.

Puzzle solved by Larry Lymon

1. Carl Reiner & Sheldon Leonard
[both were voice talent for Linus (schultz character) the Lion-Hearted}
2. The Dick Van Dyke Show (reiner and leonard production)
Joey Bishop lived in the Carlton Arms in the Joey Bishop Show. Carlton was the never-seen doorman on Rhoda which was a spinoff of the Mary Tyler Moore Show. I'm guessing that they both revolved around the workings of a TV show.
3. Carlton was played by Lorenzo Music who also voiced a famous cartoon cat on TV...Garfield.

6/24: Larry Lymon's Challenge

Solve the series:

1. Created by a vaudeville performer in the early 20th century, this practice was made famous by a couple whose lives were immortalized in a little-seen 1939 film. Barney's distant antipodean relative would approve.

2. (foie gras ingredient + 80's movie w/ early Ace-Truman cameo starring the Daymaker...well actually he typically relies on others to play the role of the Daymaker but Daymaker sounded too cool not to use) - (deceased duck's larger relative) = home of this band led by a musicalIan moper. keep it professional professional but drop the Captain's bespectacled companion.

3. this is the ride of choice for all kinds of long distance travellers. past/future riders: The Messenger, Sir T(homas) F(ranklin)?, Aqua, and a bunch of folks headed to chill with Schiaparelli. Drop deuce on this ride and you'll be there.

4. ???

figure out what "this" refers to in 1,2,3 then 4 will be child's play.

Puzzle solved by Christy

The answers are:

1. Foxtrot
2. Echo
3. Delta
4. Charlie

Christy's 1/6/05 Challenge

What was the phone number of Lilly (or Lily) Anheuser Busch (widow of Adolphus Busch) in 1925?  (#1 Busch Place, now the address of AB HQ)

Note:  Though not a Goozle, this *can* be found on the internet.

Puzzle solved by John/Gavroche

Lilly's phone number was 636 Victor

This was found on the St. Louis Social Register for 1925

Gavroche's 2/16/2005 Challenge

Connect William Shatner with Drew Barrymore in 2 degrees of separation, without using "voice-only" roles.  (That is, no animation).  Nineteen years separate the two films.

In other words:

William Shatner was in movie X with Y.

Y was in movie Z with Drew Barrymore.

Fill in X, Y and Z.

Puzzle solved by Ryan Poole

William Shatner was in "Airplane 2-The Sequel" (1982) with Julie Hagerty

Julie Hagerty was in "Freddy Got Fingered" (2001) with Drew Barrymore

(Gavroche/John intended the answer to be: Shatner was in Incubus (1965) with Eloise Hardt, and Eloise Hardt was in Irreconciliable Differences (1984) with Drew Barrymore.  But both answers fit the requirements.)

Posted by: nobody on 3/4/2005 6:13:48 AM , 140 comments

Submitted by Christy at 6/16/2004 10:26:53 AM
    I'm not second-guessing nobody, I just want to clarify: 18th CENTURY as in 1700s, right?
Submitted by nobody at 6/16/2004 10:49:39 AM
    Yes. 18th Century. 1700s.
Submitted by Christy at 6/16/2004 3:32:53 PM
    William Wordsworth: "Peter Bell: a Tale" (among so many others; I chose this for what I hope will become obvious)

    Samuel Coleridge: "Kubla Kahn"

    (David) Hartley Coleridge: "Peter Bell."

    If this isn't it, consider me stumped.
Submitted by Christy at 6/16/2004 3:38:15 PM
    For the record, the phrase: "seminal work in poetical history" really through me. I spent a mazillion seconds looking for a reference to some arcane collaborator on Johnson's "Lives of the Poets."
Submitted by nobody at 6/16/2004 4:12:37 PM
    Coleridge and Wordsworth's Lyrical Ballads, published in 1798 (18th century by the skin of its teeth), is usually used as the event that starts (or seeds, if you will) the Romantic Period of English Literature.

    Wordsworth wrote the poem, "To H.C. Six Years Old", in 1802, I believe, as I believe Hartley was born in 1796.

    and Hartley wrote the poem, "Wordsworth Unvisited"

    I will believe you unchecked with the Peter Bells'.

    By the way, Coleridge's other most famous work, Rime of the Ancient Marine, appeared in Lyrical Ballads.

    Your turn to come up with one. Post it in the comment thread, and Nobody will add it to the main post so it can be seen more easily by all.
Submitted by nobody at 6/16/2004 4:17:10 PM
    ahhh... I see why the phrase threw you. Not the "seminal" making you look earlier, but the 'history' portion which made you think of poetry criticism/biography. The English language is funny that way -- with words having flexible meanings.
Submitted by Christy at 6/16/2004 4:19:33 PM
    I missed "Wordsworth Unvisited." I figured out "Lyrical Ballads," but originally I was looking for a seminal work on the topic of poetical history. I read the sentence incorrectly.

    I can have overnight to think of one, yes?
Submitted by nobody at 6/16/2004 8:33:32 PM
    Yes
Submitted by Christy at 6/17/2004 12:34:23 PM
    I emailed you one.
Submitted by nobody at 6/17/2004 1:05:33 PM
    Its been added to the post
Submitted by hanna at 6/17/2004 3:52:15 PM
    I have a guess: I think the answer to Christy's question is "Ray's Soul Kitchen", which is located at 239 Dudley Street, Roxbury, MA (kind of Boston), and I would guess the catch phrase is "You've got the right one baby, uh-huh" by Ray Charles from the Pepsi commercials.
Submitted by Christy at 6/17/2004 4:47:35 PM
    Hannah got it.

    Lorraine Hansberry work: A RAISIN in the Sun
    The underside of a foot: SOLE
    artistic or literary material held to be of low quality, and marked especially by sentimentalism, sensationalism, and slickness: KITSCH

    First 3 letters of establishment: RAY
    River North of establishment: CHARLES

    RAIS + SOLE + KITSCH + IN

    RAY + CHARLES


    According to nobody's rules, Hannah, you're supposed to ask one now...
Submitted by hanna at 6/17/2004 4:56:25 PM
    Cool! I think I need until tomorrow to come up with something good, though. I'll post something then.
Submitted by nobody at 6/18/2004 8:27:42 AM
    Congratulations, Hanna, there are no rules, yet, on how long you have to come up with a challenge. So take the time necessary to come up with a good one.
Submitted by hanna at 6/18/2004 8:28:47 AM
    I've E-mailed you one, see if you like it.
Submitted by Christy at 6/18/2004 8:51:51 AM
    I feel a slight in there somewhere, Mr. N. :p
Submitted by nobody at 6/18/2004 9:01:36 AM
    No slight intended. Yours was a good one.
Submitted by hanna at 6/18/2004 9:08:30 AM
    Now I'm starting to sense a slight ;)
Submitted by nobody at 6/18/2004 9:52:37 AM
    arrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!!

    We feel we are in the middle of our own Kobayashi Maru

    All questions so far have been better than our own.
Submitted by jimh at 6/18/2004 10:36:54 AM
    Holy Crap. I don't think I have the time to play this game....(enter WAG mode) Um, is the city St. Louis? No? How about New York (specifically Manhattan)? Still not right? How about Los Angelas? I mean Las Vegas.
Submitted by Christy at 6/18/2004 11:25:39 AM
    I'm stuck at Austin philosopher. I'm not thinking about this one the right way, I don't think.

    WTF is: a Kobayashi Maru
    WTF is: WAG mode
Submitted by hanna at 6/18/2004 11:33:13 AM
    Christy, you're good! I think Kobayashi Maru is some kind of Star Trek reference that I don't get either. I have no idea what WAG mode is either, maybe something ingratiating, like a dog wagging it's tail?
Submitted by Christy at 6/18/2004 11:35:11 AM
    I'm closer now...having figured out what time the postman arrives. (clever, hannah, clever--you could get a job with the Urban Challenge people).
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/18/2004 11:39:30 AM
    I've been trying to work this backwards and forwards. Hoping I can come up with the required answer without answering all the intermediate steps. I too am stuck on the Austin philosopher.

    Kobayashi Maru is a Star Trek term. A No-Win Scenario. Every Federation cadet is placed in a computer simulation of one to see how they respond. (Without being told it is no-win) James T Kirk 'cheated' by altering the computer program. It appears Nobody's a geek.

    WAG is Wild **s Guess

    WTF is What The ***k
Submitted by Christy at 6/18/2004 11:55:49 AM
    Nailed all intermediate steps to come up with the answer:

    Joanna May, had 4 sisters, one of which is Alice who shares her name with the Lewis Carroll character who learned that the way to deal with children who sneeze is to "beat" them, which led us to the hustler Herbert Huncke, who was born in 1915, which led us to the philosopher Herbert Hochberg, who wrote 6 books and spent some time teaching/studying in Germany, the home of the late 70s band "Secret Service" who recorded the song "10 O'Clock Postman."

    Add it all up to get 35 and the city of Austin, TX.
Submitted by Christy at 6/18/2004 11:57:35 AM
    BTW: Hannah's puzzle had a St. Louis connection, as Huncke's biographer is William S. Burroughs.
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/18/2004 12:11:48 PM
    Damn!

    Joanna May is from the cool book/movie "The Cloning of Joanna May". Her 4 'sisters' are really her clones.

    I was betting the biographer was Hunter S Thompson. It appears I was wrong.
Submitted by hanna at 6/18/2004 4:06:26 PM
    You score Christy!!! Secret Service is Swedish though, and that's where Hochbeg went (to Gothenburg). I'll post the whole answer when I'm back at my computor (now I'm out drinking). You're up next!
Submitted by hanna at 6/19/2004 10:51:27 AM
    Ok, here is the complete answer:

    Joanna May, the protagonist of Fay Weldon’s novel “The Cloning of Joanna May” (1989) has 4 sisters, or rather clones. One of them, Alice, drives a Porsche, since she prefers to drive something more expensive than her brothers do. In “Alice in Wonderland” (1866) by Lewis Carroll you learn to “Speak roughly to your little boy / And beat him when he sneezes”. The Beat Generation, with authors like Kerouack, Ginsberg, and Burroughs, found inspiration from the slang word “beat” (originally meaning “exhausted, at the bottom of the world, looking up or out, sleepless, wide-eyed, perceptive, rejected by society, on you own, streetwise”), as it was used in 1944 by the Times Square hustler Herbert Huncke, who is mentioned in William S. Burroughs autobiography “Junky: Confessions of an Unredeemed Drug Addict” (1953). There is an Austin philosopher named Herbert Hochberg, who once was a visiting scholar in Gothenburg, Sweden. In the late 70s and early 80s “Secret Service” was a very popular band in Sweden, and in 1979 they had a big hit called “Ten O’Clock Postman”. Johanna May has four “sisters”, Herbert Hochberg has published six books, and Herbert Huncke was born in 1915. So that’s 10+4+6+15, which equals 35. I 35 runs from Laredo, TX, to Duluth, MN. The only major city along I 35 that starts with an A (for Alice) is Austin, TX.
Submitted by nobody at 6/21/2004 8:13:43 AM
    Christy...you've had the whole weekend....
    Have you come up with anything yet?
    It's monday morning, several of us might like a distraction...
Submitted by Christy at 6/21/2004 1:11:30 PM
    I'm happy to pass the baton--I've got a mazillion things going on here, this morning.
Submitted by Christy at 6/21/2004 1:14:23 PM
    fuggit; I've got one. Check your email, Mr. N
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/21/2004 2:02:27 PM
    1. REM has a song called The Stand

    2. Songwriter Steven Cavanaugh wrote a parody called Han for "Star Wars: The Musical"

    3. Mark Hamill played Luke in Star Wars episodes 4-6

    4. Mark Hamill played David Bradford on Eight is Enough for one season - 1977

    5. David Bradford's father was played by Dick Van Patten

    Five Degrees. I suspect this is not the path Christy was thinking about.
Submitted by Christy at 6/21/2004 2:25:24 PM
    No, I need an ACTUAL familial relationship, not fictional--sorry that wasn't more clear.
Submitted by Christy at 6/21/2004 2:28:27 PM
    However, that's about as obscure as my trail, I declare you the winner.
Submitted by nobody at 6/21/2004 3:06:40 PM
    Mark Hamill was an original Eight is Enough cast member? That's a new one for me. I guess he had to leave to do Star Wars. Where would Grant Goodeve be today without Lucas?

    Congratulations Scuzz, as Christy decided to declare you the winner, its up to you to come up with a challenge.(Though we're curious what Christy's trail was.)

    Try to come up with one that stumps us for more than an hour. (no slight intended.)
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/21/2004 11:05:44 PM
Submitted by hanna at 6/22/2004 4:33:33 AM
    This is unfair, Scuzz. You tease us with a new challenge, and then your web page seems to be down. It's been inaccessible for a while anyway, a long while, and I'm bored at work. :´(
Submitted by hanna at 6/22/2004 7:51:10 AM
    Now the page works! I have a preliminary guess that I haven't really been able to confirm, but for now I guess it's Scott Summers, wearing his ruby red quartz glasses.
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/22/2004 7:53:20 AM
    Well, if its only your preliminary guess, I'll wait until it's your "final answer" before I tell you if you're right or wrong.
Submitted by hanna at 6/22/2004 8:17:41 AM
    In that case Scott Summers is my final answer. I still haven't been able to locate that very picture/cover, though.
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/22/2004 9:16:23 AM
    Well, then, your guess is wrong. Ibelieve there are enough visual clues on that picture/cover to actually research the answer, though, naturally, I intentionally cut off such things as the title, publisher, and the year to make it a little harder.
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 10:08:55 AM
    My trail:

    DVP was in EiE with Lani O'Grady

    Lani O'Grady's real-life brother is Don Grady

    Don Grady (Don Agrati) played on Gary Zekley's (producer/songwriter) Yellow Balloon in the 60's (many of the tracks of this album, including the title track were also recorded by Jan and Dean, but that's just an aside).

    Gary Zekley wrote "I am Superman" which was recorded by REM (Life's Rich Pageant).
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 10:17:20 AM
    My guess for Scuzz' puzzle is Harry Potter.

    Final answer.
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/22/2004 10:30:19 AM
    No, not Harry Potter either.
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 11:56:40 AM
    Uh, Jeff Walters?

    I'm almost plumb outta guesses.
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 12:10:51 PM
    Art Benway?

    Chris Barrett?

    You see where I'm headed with this, at least, right?
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/22/2004 12:11:05 PM
    No, but you're getting warmer. Close enough to indicate its clearly not a WAG.
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/22/2004 12:14:31 PM
    hunh? Jeff Walters I thought I understood as a guess. Damn hot, I'd say. He's in the picture, just, he's not the kid. Art Benway and Chris Barrett confuse me totally.
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/22/2004 12:24:22 PM
    OK...I found Chris and Art. You are definitely on the right track.
Submitted by hanna at 6/22/2004 12:27:19 PM
    I have positive ID:s on most of the other characters in that picture, and I have my suspicions... I'm getting there...
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 12:49:45 PM
    Not, Randy O'Brien, surely.
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/22/2004 12:53:45 PM
    Nope. This is getting slightly humorous. I'm not sure where you are finding all the names of all the other characters, but not the particular one.
Submitted by jimh at 6/22/2004 12:57:14 PM
    I found a good source, but haven't figured out who the kid is. Lunch is over...back to work.
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 12:58:59 PM
    Dennis Cuzinski, aka SCUZZ
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 1:01:21 PM
    I mean, I can sit here and guess all the characters in the issue pictured (I finally found a comprehensive list), but now that I found a first and last name for Scuzz (which has taken all morning, near) this is going to be my final final answer.
Submitted by hanna at 6/22/2004 1:03:57 PM
    I kind of suspected Scuzz too. At least I've now found the cover in question.
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/22/2004 1:04:47 PM
    Yes. It's Dennis Cuzinski. DP7 (Displaced Paranormals) 7. From Marvel's New Universe 1986-89.
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/22/2004 1:05:57 PM
    And that's the cover of the #1 issue. Christy, it's your challenge again.
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 1:09:24 PM
    Once I realized Scuzz was a character, I figured it had to be him (for obvious reasons) but couldn't find a real name for the guy until I found this site.
Submitted by hanna at 6/22/2004 1:11:09 PM
    Congrats Christy!
Submitted by Scuzz at 6/22/2004 1:23:46 PM
    The Character chronology at http://www.technohol.com/new-u/chrono.asp (The site is very near the top of Google's list for the search "New Universe") also lists my full name (but they mispell my nickname as Skuzz. Idiots.)
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 1:40:53 PM
    Which is why I didn't find it there. I stopped scrolling after "sc"
Submitted by nobody at 6/22/2004 3:12:34 PM
    Christy emailed me her new Stump question. It's been posted.
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 3:29:18 PM
    Yep, and in reading it, I'm not really sure it's very clear. The first program referred to in #2 is NOT the cartoon but the show concurrently produced with the other guy.
Submitted by nobody at 6/22/2004 3:36:24 PM
    We've reworded it a bit -- have we made it worse or better?
Submitted by Christy at 6/22/2004 3:42:36 PM
    Better, thanks.
Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/22/2004 7:15:18 PM
    1. Carl Reiner & Sheldon Leonard
    [both were voice talent for Linus (schultz character) the Lion-Hearted}
    2. The Dick Van Dyke Show (reiner and leonard production)
    Joey Bishop lived in the Carlton Arms in the Joey Bishop Show. Carlton was the never-seen doorman on Rhoda which was a spinoff of the Mary Tyler Moore Show (which was a spinoff of the Dick Van Dyke Show). I'm guessing that they both revolved around the workings of a TV show.
    3. Carlton was played by Lorenzo Music who also voiced a famous cartoon cat on TV...Garfield.

    How close am I?
Submitted by ricket at 6/22/2004 9:40:02 PM
    It's interesting how your train of thought influences your answer. I was pretty flummoxed on this one. Here's where my brain led me:

    1. Hanna and Barbera

    2. Unseen character on Mork and Mindy = Orson = voice of Ralph James
    Mork and Mindy spinoff of Happy Days

    3. Ralph James did voice work on Jetsons and Scooby = Hanna and Barbera

    Lots of guesses here on my part and no way to explain the name of the apartment bldg. I think Larry Lymon got it right.
Submitted by Christy at 6/23/2004 9:02:57 AM
    Larry nailed it, even though I screwed up in the writing of #2 (which should not have read a spin-off of a spin-off but just a spin-off)

    MTM was not a spin-off.

    Sorry if that was misleading to anyone; I asked nobody to change it, but we had an answer before he could.

    Larry, you're up.
Submitted by nobody at 6/23/2004 9:25:43 AM
    For posterity's sake, we changed the wording of the question, and corrected the answer.
Submitted by Christy at 6/23/2004 11:04:05 AM
    Is Larry a real person? Is he going to come back and stump us?
Submitted by nobody at 6/23/2004 11:27:09 AM
    Hopefully. Though we were patient, and gave others time to develop a challenge.
Submitted by Chrsity at 6/23/2004 11:45:15 AM
    Yeah, he's had the answer since last night, but he couldn't have known for sure until this morning.

    I just need something to sink my teeth into, you know? Distract me from my problems.
Submitted by Nobody at 6/24/2004 10:17:34 AM
    Larry? Larry?

    Since the rules haven't yet been developed yet, we will give Larry another 24 hours to check in. Preferrably with a challenge in hand. Feel free to email it to us, our email is in the upper right.
Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/24/2004 3:02:54 PM
    sorry...still working on something that's at least somewhat worthy. I'll try to email you tomorrow AM.
Submitted by Christy at 6/24/2004 3:27:51 PM
    We've only been playing for a week and so far no one has been able to come up with something that stumps everyone.
Submitted by nobody at 6/24/2004 3:57:33 PM
    Not a problem, Larry. The key concern I had was that I hadn't heard from you at all. I'd rather wait for something worthy.

    Christy - we clearly have some good researchers amongst us. Though we have an idea for a potentially good way to work around Google and stump everyone if only we get a chance again.
Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/24/2004 4:21:25 PM
    Oh well...i finished early

    Solve the series:

    1. Created by a sideshow performer in the early 20th century, this practice was made famous by a couple whose lives were immortalized in a little-seen 1939 film. Barney's distant antipodean relative would approve.

    2. (foie gras ingredient + 80's movie w/ early Ace-Truman cameo starring the Daymaker...well actually he typically relies on others to play the role of the Daymaker but Daymaker sounded too cool not to use) - (deceased duck's larger relative) = home of this musicalIan moper. keep it professional professional.

    3. this is the ride of choice for all kinds of long distance travellers. past/future riders: The Messenger, Sir T(homas) F(ranklin)?, Aqua, and a bunch of folks headed to chill with Schiaparelli. Drop deuce on this ride and you'll be there.

    4. ???

    figure out what "this" refers to in 1,2,3 then 4 will be child's play.
Submitted by Christy at 6/24/2004 5:05:06 PM
    Wow.
Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/24/2004 5:37:13 PM
    I'll take that as a compliment but I'm sure this one will be solved by this time tomorrow.
Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/24/2004 5:45:11 PM
    please replace 2 as i realize it's not entirely accurate:

    2. (foie gras ingredient + 80's movie w/ early Ace-Truman cameo starring the Daymaker...well actually he typically relies on others to play the role of the Daymaker but Daymaker sounded too cool not to use) - (deceased duck's larger relative) = home of this band led by a musicalIan moper. keep it professional professional but drop the Captain's bespectacled companion.

    sorry.
Submitted by Gavroche at 6/24/2004 7:40:25 PM
    I've figured out the home of the band from #2...but not completely sure about the band.

    Do you realize there are 1917 movies from 1939? Finding the list was easy. Going through that list isn't going to be. It might be a weekend task if its still unsolved.
Submitted by Christy at 6/25/2004 11:14:53 AM
    So far:
    I have "this practice" (I think; found the movie and the couple)

    I have "this band"

    What's flummoxing is the little obscurities at the end of each clue.
Submitted by Christy at 6/25/2004 11:30:56 AM
    Larry, are you sure there isn't a mistake in #2? I think you have your band leaders mixed up.

    I think I'm onto this now...
Submitted by LarryLymon at 6/25/2004 12:21:04 PM
    Christy,

    I will take questions at larrylymon@mailinator.com

    Let me know as there very well may be mistakes. I apologize to anyone who follows a blind trail due to an error on my part.

Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/25/2004 12:29:02 PM
    actually a better contact is:

    b.t.larrylymon@dfgh.net

    sorry for the confusion
Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/25/2004 1:40:21 PM
    A thousand pardons.

    I would like to edit #1 to read "vaudeville" in the place of "sideshow"

    Again, apologies for missed deadlines, postponed projects, and other instances of futile workplace slackery caused by my poor
    puzzling.

Submitted by nobody at 6/25/2004 2:20:30 PM
    Done. You are forgiven. Nobody #1 is actually a Reverend at this church, so we are capable of performing this function.
Submitted by Christy at 6/25/2004 2:22:25 PM
    Here's my progress so far:

    I know the "practice" in #1; I know who Barney's distant antipodean relative is and I think I know why this relative would agree. (would you believe I didn't even know what antipodean meant until today?)

    I know the band in #2 and I think I understand what to do with that information, but I'm not sure how far to take the clue at the end.

    I thought, back when I thought I was onto something, that I had the ride in #3 figured out, but I'm not so sure.

    Interestingly, most of my research roads keep leading back to Australia...I wonder if this is coincidental?

    Gav? How are you doing with this?

    C.
Submitted by Gavroche at 6/25/2004 2:54:19 PM
    Unfortunately, I haven't been spending much time on this. Was planning on attacking it with a vengeance tomorrow if it was left unsolved.

    If #2 led you to Australia I have absolutely nothing.
    Due to knowing what antipodean meant, I figured I might have to go there for #1.

    Anybody else out there working on it? Jim? Ben? Hanna? Scuzz? Nobody? Ricket?
Submitted by Gavroche at 6/25/2004 2:59:14 PM
    ok. There's a city down south with that name, too. A quick google search doesn't turn up any music groups hailing from it though. I've got some research ahead of me if you can't pull it through Christy.

    (I think I'm still being vague enough not to give away what little I do know)
Submitted by hanna at 6/26/2004 10:19:53 AM
    I've been spending time out in the contryside, far away from computors for the last days. Hoping to have som playtime tonight, though, if ya'll aren't done by then. It looks like a great challenge!
Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/28/2004 10:34:52 AM
    I am going to give a small clarification that I suppose might qualify as a hint (does HING mean anything to anyone here...INIT game?):

    In each of the numbered entries, I am trying to lead you to a specific word in the English language.

    The answer (#4) will be in the form of a word.

Submitted by Christy at 6/28/2004 10:46:04 AM
    Well...I HAD that much. I think I have #1 and #2. #3 JUST ABOUT has me stumped, but I'm not ready to give just yet...

    nobody...since there are no strict rules yet, what do think about collaborative efforts? Allowed? Not allowed?
Submitted by Christy at 6/28/2004 11:01:31 AM
    However, I'm going to proffer a guess anyhow, based on a hunch and I've emailed it to Larry.
Submitted by Nobody at 6/28/2004 11:23:00 AM
    Offhand I'd say allowed. Though it should be announced as such so the challenger knows it took more than one person. (Of course, there's nothing to prevent otherwise)

    We've already seen participants playing the "How far have you gotten yet?" game, giving some hints to other players in the process.

    Of course, smart collaborators will do so behind the scenes so they don't give away their thought process to others...and I think I would prefer to stay away from open use of the comments for collaboration.
Submitted by Christy at 6/28/2004 11:51:45 AM
    that's why i emailed Larry instead of posting here--I wouldn't want to give away my thought process. Out of courtesy to others, not because I'm worried about someone absconding with my thought process ;-)
Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/28/2004 2:32:07 PM
    one more clarification/Hint:

    figure out what "this" refers to in 1,2,3 then 4 will be "child's play".

    BTW, Christy has 1,2,3 dead-on. This push may end it (and, to be fair, should have been included initially).
Submitted by Christy at 6/28/2004 3:35:07 PM
    I have one last guess related to the existing relationship between 1-3 (though that relationship may be simply coincidental) that I will email to you Larry, when gmail is back up. I hope it isn't the answer, though, in a way.
Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/28/2004 7:50:36 PM
    The winner is....Christy!

    The answers are:

    1. Foxtrot
    2. Echo
    3. Delta
    4. Charlie

    I'm too tired to explain all of it at the moment but #5 would be a cable channel started in December of 1980. I asked Christy to explain how she got the answers so I will post my thoughts tomorrow (on company time).

    Larry
Submitted by Nobody at 6/28/2004 10:36:50 PM
    Bravo, Christy. Well Done.
    Alpha quality work. You're up.

    (I guess there would be no 7)
Submitted by Christy at 6/29/2004 7:42:08 AM
    I need some time to consider a new stump. Likely it will be another Goozle (which is what I'm calling these "research" puzzles) but I'm not sure.

    Harry Fox created the Foxtrot, which Vernon and Irene Castle made famous. In 1939, there was a movie tribute to their life (I don't remember the name, but it wasn't hard to find).

    Barney's anipodean relative must be Dorothy the dancing dinosaur from The Wiggles.

    A short list of famous bands from Liverpool turned up both the Lightning Seeds (whose lead singer is Ian Broudie) and Echo and the Bunnymen (whose lead singer is Ian McCulloch). I think the word "moper" was a little misleading and emailed Larry and told him so. Because I spent a long long time trying to take apart the Lightning Seeds, when I needed to be taking apart Echo. The Captain, of course, is Captain Kangaroo and his pal Bunny Rabbit.

    So, now I have Foxtrot and Echo. I see the pattern and spend an awful lot of time looking for some fictional character named "The Messenger" riding in an Alfa ROMEO. FINALLY, with a little help from my friend at happy hour, determine there's a rocket launch vehicle called DELTA (The Messenger is an OAO, or something similar), as is Aqua. Giovanni Schiaparelli discovered the canali on Mars, so I assume that reference was to that.

    Prior to this, I thought #4 might be Charlie (because of the Child's Play clue, but that doll's name was Chuckie and it really didn't fit the logic of the other clues, so I passed on that). Once I was sure about #3, my first (wrong) guess was X-Ray. Then I decided to go with this Charlie (Chuckie) answer.

    Still, every single one of my wrong turns and deadends found me in Australia.

    Anyway, that was fun. I'll try to have something by tomorrow morning.

Submitted by Gavroche at 6/29/2004 8:00:37 AM
    It's the NATO phonetic alphabet. It had to be Charlie.
    But Christy is right, it is Chucky in the film, and even the Serial Killer who's soul is transferred to Chucky is Charles, not Charlie, though it is possible he is called Charlie in the film.

    Of course, I couldn't figure anything else out, except I had arrived at Liverpool, (Turkey Liver + Dead Pool - Dead Turkey) but the rest of that clue stumped me, and then Christy said everything was leading her to Australia, and I discovered there was a Liverpool, Australia too, but they don't have any famous rock groups.

    By the way -- Fois Gras can be made of both turkey liver and duck liver. Of course, if you assume duck liver, the 'deceased duck's larger relatve' makes no sense.

    NATO phonetic alphabet
    Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India
    Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo
    Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu
Submitted by Larry Lymon at 6/29/2004 10:13:03 AM
    Thanks to everyone who worked on cracking this. It was fun.

    Barney's antipodean relative - this one was way too hard. This was actually a Baz Luhrman/Andy Griffith reference if you can believe it. Barney Fife - Barry Fife (strictly ballroom) - "No new steps!" It's amazing that Christy found another interpretation that also worked to confirm her theory. I never honestly expected anyone to get that clue.

    Apologies to Gavroche. I was under the impression that classic Foie Gras was made with goose liver. That was where I started from. I agree that the actual fact that it is also made from duck liver (I couldn't find any reference to turkey foie gras) makes the clue a bit faulty. The movie was The Dead Pool so removing "deceased duck's larger relative" or dead goose from goose liver dead pool gives liverpool.

    I recall Echo&Bunnymen as a bit mopey in tone as well as Ian M's solo work but it has been a while since I have really listened to either. Of course, mopey is not a bad thing in my catalog.

    The Delta II is the workhorse of NASA's satellite launch program...the riders were all satellites and the Schiaparelli bit was a reference to the fact that all the recent vehicles we have on or orbiting Mars got there thanks to the the D2. Drop the deuce (II) and you have just "delta".

    The Chucky clue was just to confirm to someone that they were on the right track as Chucky is a nickname of Charles which I felt was accurate enough for a clue.

    Looking forward to Christy's next Stump!




Submitted by Christy at 6/29/2004 11:11:25 AM
    I spent a nice chunk of time in my professional and college life involved in the aviation industry which made the alphabet easy to spot. Thanks for the explanation of the clues. I wound up ignoring them for the most part except for the bunny reference, which allowed me to move from the Seeds to the Bunnymen.

    I always believed that foie gras was made with goose liver, as well, but when I interpreted the clue, I just went with the un-modified liver...
Submitted by John at 1/24/2005 9:08:24 AM
    I'm thankful this seems to have stumped Nobody as I have found the answer and sent the answer to Christy. This was actually a very clever challenge.
Submitted by John at 1/24/2005 9:11:37 AM
    (And stumped everyone else for that matter, but it's often difficult to beat Christy and Nobody to the solution.)
Submitted by Christy at 1/24/2005 1:18:08 PM
    And the answer was correct:

    I've sent the answer to nobody. Perhaps he can add it here, with the explanation of where John (and myself) found the answer--all invisible-like, you know?
Submitted by nobody at 1/24/2005 3:18:07 PM
    done...now it's John's turn
    (We suspect he found the answer 'literally' as opposed to his normal 'numerologically' significant...considering his authorial obsession.)
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/2/2005 10:01:06 AM
    okay i'm not guessing yet but does it have anything to do with Ben Stiller? I haven't found the movie Drew and Ben were in yet, but Ben and William were in Dodgeball oh well i guess u can send me the real answe ryan_poole_ry@hotmail.com
Submitted by ryan poole ry at 3/3/2005 12:42:56 PM
    okay i'm confused, is the new challenge to figure out william and drew or not, cause I see it on the main page new challenge, however I do not see it here in the notes? anyway I do believe I was wrong with Ben Stiller and in fact I might of goten futher off then I thought at first is the fact that the movies are 19 years apart a really big clue? if so i'm guessing that it has something to do with the ET movie but again I will do some more reasearch e-mail me at ryan_poole_ry@hotmail.com so i can atleast now if that is the correct challenge. hopefully somone will answer i see noone has answer since 1/24 maybe everyone is gone. Oh I thought I would put this out even though I know this isn't what she wants just thought it would be interesting. William Shatner was in the Twilight Zone (Black and White narrated by Rod Serling), and the Twilight Zone (color narrated by Forest Whitiker (spelled wrong)) fearured Drew Barrymore. lol anyway my internet was down yesterday so I hope on finding the answer today or tommorow, or maybe over the weekend. but is anyone even here anymore?
Submitted by nobody at 3/3/2005 3:08:44 PM
    Nobody's still here. We posted last on 2/24, This 'new challenge' was dated 2/16, and you were the first person to attempt to solve it.

    Unfortunately, Gavroche told us the answer, so we couldn't participate in the challenge.

    Gavroche told us he included the '19 years' solely in case there were other ways to do it, hoping this would eliminate all other possibilities.
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/3/2005 7:56:35 PM
    ah I think I figured it out but now I'm not so sure oh well good thing u can do more then one guess. William Shatner was is Dodgeball with Joel Moore (ha i was right with dodgeball) who was in Firestarter with Drew Barrymore
Submitted by ryanpoole at 3/3/2005 8:28:39 PM
    i'm going to ask u to give me a really big hint, hopefully u will I just reaslized it was jole morre in dodge ball and a different moore in firestarter or something like that. so is it 19 year from a drew film or 19 year from a william film. ah i bet u won't tell me but i'm really trying to get this right lol
Submitted by Ryan poole at 3/3/2005 9:28:57 PM
    I win I finally figured it out the 19 years and all it only took me an hour and a half but oh well. William Shatner was in "Airplane 2-The Sequel" (1982) with Julie Hagerty who was in "Freddy Got Fingered"(2001) (2001-1982=19 years) with Drew Barrymore YIPPEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/3/2005 10:19:29 PM
    NEW CHALLENGE:

    Since I am sure I got that right I will go ahead with mine cause this is the only time that I have until Mon. and hey might as well do it now if I am proven wrong then forget my challenge. I will take the rules very liberal as in the words "public access" good lucking finding it on the internet (although u might), but it can be found else where. all three questions I am thinking of a particular answer but I will take any provable answer and I will after that tell you what I actually wanted. The second and third one I have to be tougher I don't want to be nice already and give u years hints but I will if noone guesses what I really want by 1 week (but someone has to atleast guess once) anyway here are all 3 of them, hehe yes 3 i figure if someone guesses atleast it's going to take awhile. or am I breaking a rule by doing more then one challenge, I might be but please I don't win and tell u what if u get 2 or the 2 easy ones right on the one vague and 1 easy ones I'll give it to u! THANKS for letting me bend the rules if u do. if not I will post again.

    1.In 1 degree or 2 degree (if u include the character) of seperation how is WKRP (in Cinnicinati) related to Stephen King.
    2. In 2 degree of seperation how is Adam Sandler and Julia Roberts related (and here's one hint atleast I'm not using Drew Barrymore).
    3. in 2 degree of seperation how is Scott Bakula and Tim Allen realted.
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/3/2005 10:29:22 PM
    yea i think i'm able to do more then one question because someone did one to so i'm now being a jerk and going make u do all three and if u wondering which post i'm refering to that had more then one question here it is Oh well...i finished early

    Solve the series:

    1. Created by a sideshow performer in the early 20th century, this practice was made famous by a couple whose lives were immortalized in a little-seen 1939 film. Barney's distant antipodean relative would approve.

    2. (foie gras ingredient + 80's movie w/ early Ace-Truman cameo starring the Daymaker...well actually he typically relies on others to play the role of the Daymaker but Daymaker sounded too cool not to use) - (deceased duck's larger relative) = home of this musicalIan moper. keep it professional professional.

    3. this is the ride of choice for all kinds of long distance travellers. past/future riders: The Messenger, Sir T(homas) F(ranklin)?, Aqua, and a bunch of folks headed to chill with Schiaparelli. Drop deuce on this ride and you'll be there.

    4. ???

    figure out what "this" refers to in 1,2,3 then 4 will be child's play.
Submitted by nobody at 3/4/2005 9:25:43 AM
    Those four questions were all inter-related. You needed to be able to solve 1-3 in order to solve #4. However, the rules aren't too specific with regards to that. So we will accept your challenge.

    Your answer doesn't match what Gavroche intended, but apparently his 19-year restriction wasn't enough to narrow it down to one. Your answer fits the requirements, so we declare you the winner.

    Additionally:
    William Shatner was in Incubus with Eloise Hardt (1965)
    Eloise Hardt was in Irreconcilable Differences with Drew Barrymore (1984)

    (Gavroche should have specified a foreign language film was involved. Incubus was entirely in Esperanto.)

Submitted by ryan poole at 3/4/2005 10:19:21 AM
    First of all I would like to thank you for accepting my challenge as I don't know how many I'll get right, and also thanks for accepting my answer even though it wasn't what she was going for anyway. Just to tell you all I have now found other ways to break my challenge, and I will accept thos answers, but hopefully you'll be able to use the one I was thinking of as it is mor obscure, harder, and funnier either way I will accept any answers that can be proven as I didn't give years or specifics and after words I will tell you the exact answers I was looking for. anyway THANKS AGAIN
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/4/2005 10:32:07 AM
    this is my last post before the weekend sorry I posted alot. Hum i can't believe I found this site, glad I did though. Anyway I would like to thank all of you again, and since u let me bend the rules I will accept like I said any acceptable answers, even though I am looking for a certain one. Oh well that's what u get for breaking the rules, and not wanting to give hints yet. the last 2 can probably be solved very easily in several ways, but I hope I have officially stumped people with the first one, good luck on that!
Submitted by John/Gavroche at 3/4/2005 12:41:23 PM
    Congrats. Noboby was correct...I should have probably specified a foreign language film, but I thought that might make it too easy. It's interesting there was more than one answer.
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/4/2005 1:06:27 PM
    yea JOhn it is interesting lol my computer at home is finally working so now I can check weekend lol. Anyway on the 1st one the hard one let me give you one hint already for the person who e-mailed me about it. Don't try to think of the people who played the characters of WKRP, it is actually a charater in something to do with Stephen King that is related. Hopefully by giving this hint I don't give my hard one away. I don't believe I will but oh well. Happy Fri. everyone. Hey by the way just so I know how often to check this. How often do you guys get ont his website/ reasearch the question like what day s and times and all
Submitted by Nobody at 3/4/2005 2:41:43 PM
    Drat...we came up with an answer for an actor who was in WKRP who was also in a Stephen King movie. But now that won't suffice. I have the other two, so your first one is all that's left.

    There are no set times for new challenges. Whenever someone solves a challenge, they get to create a new one. And sometimes we (nobody) will throw out separate puzzles.

    We did create a separate website -- goozle.org -- hoping to post a difficult goozle once a month...but we're somewhat behind on that.

    If you have an RSS feeder (you can get a web-based one via bloglines.com) you can subscribe to this blog (and others) and know when its updated.
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/4/2005 8:52:17 PM
    ah go ahead and tell me what u got for the first ones and I'll tell u what I was going for. because no doubt those two can be solved many ways. sorry if this go on twice i click x accendently and not sure if it posted
Submitted by Ryan Poole at 3/4/2005 9:00:11 PM
    sorry again if this is posted twice dang computer is frezzing up I thought we just fixed it oh well that what u get. Anyway I'm in such a good mood that I decided to give u anothe hint on the first one if u guys post what u got from the other two and give atleast one guess on the first one before the weekend is out, because by then I will be back in a bad mood LOL
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/5/2005 12:45:36 AM
    you'll never guess. somone asked me what has Kristie Alley done beside look who's talking and I didn't know lol who does. but she has done 26 movies, and cameod in 1. and here's an interesting sidefact for all you Star trex fan she was in Star Trex 2: The Wrath of Khan. wow I would've never guess. It's funny when u look up starts that are famous for a role (hers being look who's talking) and think that she hasn't done anything since but she even was in Back by midnight in 2005, and 2 in 2003. I wonder if this groups can come up with other actor/actress that were famous along time ago or whatever for one role and think that they haven't done anything. It would be intereting to search them and see what movie the have done. anyway I'll leave you with this last one what has Bridgette Neilson done besides sureeal life, and the Rocky movies. I tried looking it up but I couldn't find a list of movies for her. no this is not my challenge or part of a challenge I just thought it would be fun to trhough out what we think are wash-out celebrities and see what they are actually doing now
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/5/2005 10:27:41 PM
    I see you haven't got on today well when u do give me ur answer for the two ones u figured out so I can give you what i was thinking of
Submitted by nobody at 3/6/2005 11:13:07 AM
    Here's Brigitte's info from IMDB (you were spelling her name wrong, which is why you couldn't find her.)

    1) Several actors from WKRP were actually in Stephen King movies. Tim Reid (Venus Fly Trap) who was in IT.
    And Richard Sanders (Les Nesman) was in Stephen King's Rose Red miniseries.

    One could also say that just like Mama Carlson, Stephen King owns a radio station. His is WZON. (I believe it's in Maine, and I'm not sure if he still owns it.)

    There is a character in IT who plays a disc jockey, but the character worked for a radio station in Boston, not Cincinatti.

    2)
    Julia Roberts was in Erin Brockovich (2000) with Gina Gallego
    Gina Gallego was in Anger Management (2003) with Adam Sandler

    3)
    Tim Allen was in Christmas with the Kranks (2004) with Cheech Marin
    Cheech Marin was in Luminarias (2000) with Scott Bakula

    Nobody.
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/6/2005 2:16:41 PM
    okay tell you want nobody since u have proven it although I was hoping for the harder answer for number one I might declare u winner it's up to u would you rather go for the harder one that I was thinking of especially for number one (without any characters from WKRP) and here's another hint it has to do with a book not any movies "public access" taking liberaly could mean any book at libary or would u rather have me declare u winner. either way please wait tell mon so I can post what exactly I was thinking of for the other twon, and the 1st one if u want to be winner or not the 1st one if u want to work harder
Submitted by ryanpoole at 3/6/2005 6:54:26 PM
    You know what I decided to be really mean and not declare u the winner nobody but here really big is hints for all of them so they can only be solved one way! Please let me do this as if I knew there were several ways to solve it I would've wrote it better.

    1. It has something to do with Stephen King's books such as WKRP is mentioned in Stephen Kings book _________

    2. The person I was thinking of has a similar role in the Adam Sandler, and Julia Roberts movie.

    3. This might actually make u go crazy the person starring with Scott Bakula/Tim Allen has somethig to do with both of these year 1991, and 1959. And I will even give you the exact date and month of the 1959 one as soon as I can find it again. I never did find the exact month and day for the 1991 one though.

    Well here's really big hints in hoping that u'll forgive me for not giving more precise direction and keep on trying to figure out my challenge. THANK YOU for understanding how stupid i was when doing the challenge the first time!
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/6/2005 7:38:30 PM
    well I decided to give you one more big hint on number 3 since you are letting me go on with the challenge. the person stared with Tim in something to do with 1991 (no exact date because she was in every episode). and she stared with scott in something to do with 1959 (exact date September 9, 1959. Oh there's a hint if I can give an exact date u know it's a cameo role)
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/6/2005 7:39:56 PM
    oh I just gave a bigger hint then I was supposed to I meant to write person but I said she, well there's a hint it's a she.
Submitted by nobody at 3/6/2005 8:16:45 PM
    We are feeling very generous in that we know it is difficult to phrase "degree of separation" questions so there is only one answer.

    We are unable to change the actual blog entry from where we are now, due to having access to only an old browser, but we will do so Monday morning.
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/6/2005 8:54:42 PM
    thank you so much!!!!
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/7/2005 4:14:01 PM
    hey nobody could u e-mail me I lost ur e-mail. and how are u doing so far on my revised challenges?
Submitted by ryan poole at 3/22/2005 3:09:06 PM
    Since it is impossible for someone to answer # 1 without the book, I will therfore declare whoever gets the other two (exactly how I want it) right, the winner. and then post the answers. byt he way WKRP is actually metnioned twice in the book, but in my answer I use the first time it was mentioned, but if someone finds out one I will take either. but like I said whoever psot the other two correctly first I will declare winner. lol actually I forget the what page WKRP was mentioned the second time, oh well i'll figure it out
Submitted by ryan poole at 4/7/2005 11:37:23 AM
    okay I'm tired of having mine not being answered so whoever copies these correct answers first I will declare the winner. That's right all you have to do is copy down the answer.
    1. 1 seperation: WKRP is mention in a
    Stephen King book. 2: WKRP was being listened to by Paul (sheldon) in Stephen King's book "Misery" on page 18.

    2.Adam Sandler stared with Conchata Ferrell who
    played Jan(the pizza woman) in Mr. Deeds (2002) who played
    Leona(another pizza woman) In Mystic Pizza (1988) with Julia Roberts.

    3.Tim Allen (Tim Taylor) Stared in Home Improvement
    (1991)with Patricia Richardson (Jill Taylor)who played the radio producer at WOFF with Scott Bakula (Sam Becket leaping into Howlin' Chuck Howl)in Quantum Leap Season 2 episode 14 "Good Morning Peoria". (1989) Side fact: the leap date (date that Sam leaped into) was:September 9, 1959.

    There you go now just copy and paste and your the winner
Submitted by nobody at 4/7/2005 12:47:25 PM
    Darn! And, we spent lunch hour today researching the answers!!! (Sorry..we've been busy lately. here's your answers.)

    1. 1 seperation: WKRP is mention in a
    Stephen King book. 2: WKRP was being listened to by Paul (sheldon) in Stephen King's book "Misery" on page 18.

    [As we mentioned to you earlier...there was a New WKRP in Cincinatti episode with a "Number One Fan" reference.]

    2.Adam Sandler stared with Conchata Ferrell who
    played Jan(the pizza woman) in Mr. Deeds (2002) who played
    Leona(another pizza woman) In Mystic Pizza (1988) with Julia Roberts.

    3.Tim Allen (Tim Taylor) Stared in Home Improvement
    (1991)with Patricia Richardson (Jill Taylor)who played the radio producer at WOFF with Scott Bakula (Sam Becket leaping into Howlin' Chuck Howl)in Quantum Leap Season 2 episode 14 "Good Morning Peoria". (1989) Side fact: the leap date (date that Sam leaped into) was:September 9, 1959.

Submitted by ryan poole at 4/7/2005 2:48:04 PM
    It's okay I just like solving more then getting mine solved and It seemed like a long time but anyway I declare nobody the winner, congrats nobody it's ur challenge now
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